485Mbe4001
07-28 12:29 PM
good post with good points.
Additionally EB3 ROW will also suffer because the overflow will be allocated to EB2 first. You will see more and more countries getting retrogressed in EB3. It is not a case of being envious about EB2's, it is simply the fact that EB3's as a whole are screwed very bad and EB3 I in particular will never be current.
(On paper) This visa bulletin looks like an attempt to sow discontent among the nascent EB organizations (IV in particular) and it seems to have succeeded. EB 3 have dropped off from state chapters(I have). It exposed the worst from all the groups. 2007 VB fiasco helped many, but it also created many issues for DOL and USCIS that its payback time for us, they will go through each rule with a fine tooth comb and make sure that this will never happen again. it is my opinion that in the end we lost big time.
Sorry to read blaming debates between eb3 and eb2. Insted of blaming, it is better to take some action. Based on current practice by DOS, EB3-I will be like this for ever, unless more number opens up by any legislative changes. As per law, each EB catagories are allowed to have 40K visas. As demand for EB2 is more, (paricularly by In,Ch) one can not expect any flow from EB2 to EB3 . This is law one can not change it.
Now I am coming to important point to take some action by EB3-I. The law says, 7% country quota will be applied in each prefrence catagory if worldwide demand for visas is more than supply in that catagory. But the law does not set any time frame. Therefore, the real threat for EB3-I is EB3-ROW. As per current practice, untill EB3-ROW become "current" EB3-I will get only 3000 visas per year. What happen if EB3-ROW never become "current" for next 50 years? EB3-I will be stuck in 2001 or 2002 for ever. To add my point, let us imagine a hypothetical case. Lets say in 2010 about 1 million ROW guys neend EB3 visa number. All has PD 2010. EB3-In will be stuck in 2001 till one million EB-ROW with PD 2010 recives GC. In nut shell, a EB3-ROW with latest PD will be given more preference than EB3-In with PD 2001. As current practice does not set any time limit, new flow of applications keeps retrogressed countries stuck for ever. This point has to be conveyed to DOS and USCIS to change the practice. Applications receviced in one fiscal year has to be cleared (grant GC) to process the application from next year. This way new applications from ROW will not stuck the retrogreesd countries for ever.
Additionally EB3 ROW will also suffer because the overflow will be allocated to EB2 first. You will see more and more countries getting retrogressed in EB3. It is not a case of being envious about EB2's, it is simply the fact that EB3's as a whole are screwed very bad and EB3 I in particular will never be current.
(On paper) This visa bulletin looks like an attempt to sow discontent among the nascent EB organizations (IV in particular) and it seems to have succeeded. EB 3 have dropped off from state chapters(I have). It exposed the worst from all the groups. 2007 VB fiasco helped many, but it also created many issues for DOL and USCIS that its payback time for us, they will go through each rule with a fine tooth comb and make sure that this will never happen again. it is my opinion that in the end we lost big time.
Sorry to read blaming debates between eb3 and eb2. Insted of blaming, it is better to take some action. Based on current practice by DOS, EB3-I will be like this for ever, unless more number opens up by any legislative changes. As per law, each EB catagories are allowed to have 40K visas. As demand for EB2 is more, (paricularly by In,Ch) one can not expect any flow from EB2 to EB3 . This is law one can not change it.
Now I am coming to important point to take some action by EB3-I. The law says, 7% country quota will be applied in each prefrence catagory if worldwide demand for visas is more than supply in that catagory. But the law does not set any time frame. Therefore, the real threat for EB3-I is EB3-ROW. As per current practice, untill EB3-ROW become "current" EB3-I will get only 3000 visas per year. What happen if EB3-ROW never become "current" for next 50 years? EB3-I will be stuck in 2001 or 2002 for ever. To add my point, let us imagine a hypothetical case. Lets say in 2010 about 1 million ROW guys neend EB3 visa number. All has PD 2010. EB3-In will be stuck in 2001 till one million EB-ROW with PD 2010 recives GC. In nut shell, a EB3-ROW with latest PD will be given more preference than EB3-In with PD 2001. As current practice does not set any time limit, new flow of applications keeps retrogressed countries stuck for ever. This point has to be conveyed to DOS and USCIS to change the practice. Applications receviced in one fiscal year has to be cleared (grant GC) to process the application from next year. This way new applications from ROW will not stuck the retrogreesd countries for ever.
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desi3933
08-18 02:10 PM
Well then you should have done it long time back . You are now going for your citizenship and everyone on this forum knows that.
Well, you and I don't agree on that. I believe in helping (whatever I can do) to future immigrants of this great country.
Good Luck to you!
PS: What happened to your case?
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Well, you and I don't agree on that. I believe in helping (whatever I can do) to future immigrants of this great country.
Good Luck to you!
PS: What happened to your case?
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GCEB2
09-03 10:43 AM
Did you receive teh physical cards by now?
My Case:
08/12/08 - Approval Notice Sent message (This is the only message I got)
08/18/08 - Received the Approval notice by post
No cards till now...:confused:
I am in the same situation
08/12/08 - Approval sent email
08/18/08 - Received the Approval notice by post
No welcome notice or card
No updates.....
My Case:
08/12/08 - Approval Notice Sent message (This is the only message I got)
08/18/08 - Received the Approval notice by post
No cards till now...:confused:
I am in the same situation
08/12/08 - Approval sent email
08/18/08 - Received the Approval notice by post
No welcome notice or card
No updates.....
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09-03 12:20 PM
I am in the same situation
08/12/08 - Approval sent email
08/18/08 - Received the Approval notice by post
No welcome notice or card
No updates.....
It seems we are all in the same boat? Did any body try to talk to customer service or take Info pass or any idea who received the card after facing the similar kind of situation?
08/12/08 - Approval sent email
08/18/08 - Received the Approval notice by post
No welcome notice or card
No updates.....
It seems we are all in the same boat? Did any body try to talk to customer service or take Info pass or any idea who received the card after facing the similar kind of situation?
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SunnySurya
08-18 01:57 PM
My reaction would have been the same if you were in Eb1 category. The fact is that I am trying to mobilize some people to get few things done. Of course, motivated by my self interest.
I am sorry SunnySurya but this issue DOES concern me. If everyone starts asking the IV core for their time just for their own issues, what about the rest of the community?
If you expect the IV core to dedicate it's time JUST for a particular secction of people, then you need to justify that demand.
In your opinion, EB3 is a LOWLY category as compared to EB2. So it is not enough that Nurses feed from it and just about EVERYONE else feeds from it. To top it off, overflow from eb1 goes FIRST to eb2 and then (and almost NEVER) to eb3. SO Eb2 gets a fair chunk of the greed cards, and over and above that you now want the IV core to further drop everything else and help JUST eb2 out? And who should make this demand? None other than someone who is trying to BREAK the community up into Eb2 vs Eb3.
I am sorry SunnySurya but this issue DOES concern me. If everyone starts asking the IV core for their time just for their own issues, what about the rest of the community?
If you expect the IV core to dedicate it's time JUST for a particular secction of people, then you need to justify that demand.
In your opinion, EB3 is a LOWLY category as compared to EB2. So it is not enough that Nurses feed from it and just about EVERYONE else feeds from it. To top it off, overflow from eb1 goes FIRST to eb2 and then (and almost NEVER) to eb3. SO Eb2 gets a fair chunk of the greed cards, and over and above that you now want the IV core to further drop everything else and help JUST eb2 out? And who should make this demand? None other than someone who is trying to BREAK the community up into Eb2 vs Eb3.
SKK2004
08-25 04:35 PM
Being out of the backlog elimination center and waiting in this line since 2004, trust me when I say this circus isn't new to me :)!
your are very welcome.
Chill, relax and live everyday ( this USCIS circus is no fun).
your are very welcome.
Chill, relax and live everyday ( this USCIS circus is no fun).
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09-20 09:07 AM
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small2006
12-11 02:16 PM
Yes, case was originally filed at NSC on July 2nd and on august 24th it got transferred to TSC.
Does the transfer matter here, because dingudi's case is not a transfer case and he's still waiting...
I am in the same boat. 485 filed at NSC on July 12, sent to TSC on September 7th. EAD/AP filed on Aug 9 at NSC and they are still in NSC.
I have AP approved and EAD pending. No FP notice yet either. Its been more than 45 days since opening a SR for that for both me and my wife. System sucks. I have been to the local ASC 3 times with no results.
Again I am not sure if the fact that my 485 is in TX and EAD/AP is in NE is cauing all the problems.
Does the transfer matter here, because dingudi's case is not a transfer case and he's still waiting...
I am in the same boat. 485 filed at NSC on July 12, sent to TSC on September 7th. EAD/AP filed on Aug 9 at NSC and they are still in NSC.
I have AP approved and EAD pending. No FP notice yet either. Its been more than 45 days since opening a SR for that for both me and my wife. System sucks. I have been to the local ASC 3 times with no results.
Again I am not sure if the fact that my 485 is in TX and EAD/AP is in NE is cauing all the problems.
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sbabunle
05-03 06:21 PM
I agree with MChundi here. I have been in this process since 2002 and have worked closely with my lawyers but it never ceases to amaze me how much complexity is built into the GC system. Putting the ads, applying for labor, aplying for I-140 answering any throwbacks from DOL/UCSIS. TO add to that the goof ups by the immigration lawyers and their para-legals certainly confuses the hell out of u.
Most ppl who apply for GCs are unaware about retrogression and PBEC problems at the onset. Even if they are aware u think, "well, my labour will take abt a year or so so by then hopefully things will become current". I mean not a lot of us, have the time or the foresight to plan THAT much in advance.
Now if we as H1s dont know the deal here, H4's CERTAINLY dont know the deal and it takes them a LOT more time to grasp the reality of things coz they have to absorb many other things like learning how to drive here, learning how the credit system works here etc etc etc.
All that being said, i would ask the H4's to try and avoid pointing blame at the IV members. This is not an easy process for sure. We are in NO position to demand anything from the US Govt. Whatever progress we have made is also quite phenomenal. I Still cant believe we collected even $100,000+ !! Right now the best strategy is to solve the primary applicant's problems and try and get the dependents problems go away along with that.
I agree with you eb3-nepa. My story is pretty much same as yours. Its not
a good idea to blame IV. IV is trying to do whatever possible within its limits.
If we are going to point out and resolve the issues in the immigration area the list would grow day by day. I think its better to focus on critical issues ( like retrogression, automatic recapturing of Visas and removing or increasing the per country quota ) and lobby for them. Most importantly DO NOT criticize IV unless absolutley we have to. Because unnecessary criticism may kill many of the volunteers spirits. If we ask for too many things ( like work permissions for H4) we may end up in getting nothing.
I hope and pray some good law will come up where there will be some good for everyone.
thanks
babu
Most ppl who apply for GCs are unaware about retrogression and PBEC problems at the onset. Even if they are aware u think, "well, my labour will take abt a year or so so by then hopefully things will become current". I mean not a lot of us, have the time or the foresight to plan THAT much in advance.
Now if we as H1s dont know the deal here, H4's CERTAINLY dont know the deal and it takes them a LOT more time to grasp the reality of things coz they have to absorb many other things like learning how to drive here, learning how the credit system works here etc etc etc.
All that being said, i would ask the H4's to try and avoid pointing blame at the IV members. This is not an easy process for sure. We are in NO position to demand anything from the US Govt. Whatever progress we have made is also quite phenomenal. I Still cant believe we collected even $100,000+ !! Right now the best strategy is to solve the primary applicant's problems and try and get the dependents problems go away along with that.
I agree with you eb3-nepa. My story is pretty much same as yours. Its not
a good idea to blame IV. IV is trying to do whatever possible within its limits.
If we are going to point out and resolve the issues in the immigration area the list would grow day by day. I think its better to focus on critical issues ( like retrogression, automatic recapturing of Visas and removing or increasing the per country quota ) and lobby for them. Most importantly DO NOT criticize IV unless absolutley we have to. Because unnecessary criticism may kill many of the volunteers spirits. If we ask for too many things ( like work permissions for H4) we may end up in getting nothing.
I hope and pray some good law will come up where there will be some good for everyone.
thanks
babu
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PresidentO
02-25 11:50 PM
Akhil,
I could convince 3 of my colleagues who are READY RIGHT NOW to contribute $1000.00 each. I can do $500.00.
But they asked me just one question. What is the action plan that IV is collecting these monies from prospective immigrants who are already in pain due to this economy and all that. I did tell them about July 07, flower campaign, but they are not willing to listen. They said they did not contribute at that time due to some reasons, but they now want to contribute big way. They have a much bigger friend's circle than mine who are also doing good from top schools who may contribute too. They may also register in IV soon.
But their only question is "What is the action plan for FUTURE". Can you please help.
I am confused myself with the same question, no offense. Like me, they wouldnt wait and wait forever for things to happen. We Strongly believe in any action towards goals. Trust me, we need lots of money, but the way they responded made me feel uncomfortable.
Yeah! Its common sense dude! Lets keep the 50USD in pocket when one has job rather than contributing to a cause that might help keep the job or makes voice heard when a bad bill comes out.. Choice is yours and your friends. If you/your friends are expecting a GC because you paid 50$ towards this effort, I dont know what to tell. If you/your freinds are expecting to hold xyz accountable for every single penny of the donation, that is not the attitude that will bring US together.
Ask your friends to understand the word lobbying and advocacy efforts. How much work it takes to hire a firm and get strategic advise? How much a firm that advises strategically and positions the issue strategically charges per hr? If an IT consultant is charged at the rate of 100-200USD by a big consulting company, Imagine how much would a consultant such as these people on the hill charge? I dont know but I wont be surprised if its north of 500USD an hr.
With out IV, The only two things folks on the hill knew were illegal immigration and H1B visa. Now more than 75% offices know the EB issue inside out and have a position on it. This is an effort that needs to be continued until we get a solution.
"What is the action plan for FUTURE"?
Relief from Retrgoression. Continued advocacy efforts. is it that difficult to know? I dont know but it seemed obvious to me.
I could convince 3 of my colleagues who are READY RIGHT NOW to contribute $1000.00 each. I can do $500.00.
But they asked me just one question. What is the action plan that IV is collecting these monies from prospective immigrants who are already in pain due to this economy and all that. I did tell them about July 07, flower campaign, but they are not willing to listen. They said they did not contribute at that time due to some reasons, but they now want to contribute big way. They have a much bigger friend's circle than mine who are also doing good from top schools who may contribute too. They may also register in IV soon.
But their only question is "What is the action plan for FUTURE". Can you please help.
I am confused myself with the same question, no offense. Like me, they wouldnt wait and wait forever for things to happen. We Strongly believe in any action towards goals. Trust me, we need lots of money, but the way they responded made me feel uncomfortable.
Yeah! Its common sense dude! Lets keep the 50USD in pocket when one has job rather than contributing to a cause that might help keep the job or makes voice heard when a bad bill comes out.. Choice is yours and your friends. If you/your friends are expecting a GC because you paid 50$ towards this effort, I dont know what to tell. If you/your freinds are expecting to hold xyz accountable for every single penny of the donation, that is not the attitude that will bring US together.
Ask your friends to understand the word lobbying and advocacy efforts. How much work it takes to hire a firm and get strategic advise? How much a firm that advises strategically and positions the issue strategically charges per hr? If an IT consultant is charged at the rate of 100-200USD by a big consulting company, Imagine how much would a consultant such as these people on the hill charge? I dont know but I wont be surprised if its north of 500USD an hr.
With out IV, The only two things folks on the hill knew were illegal immigration and H1B visa. Now more than 75% offices know the EB issue inside out and have a position on it. This is an effort that needs to be continued until we get a solution.
"What is the action plan for FUTURE"?
Relief from Retrgoression. Continued advocacy efforts. is it that difficult to know? I dont know but it seemed obvious to me.
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walking_dude
10-08 02:42 PM
Have you been hit on the head by a hammer? I see a future Ron Hira in you.
GC was, is and will be a game of Inky-Pinky-Ponky with or without retrogression. There's no way it can be made 100% FIFO without installing cameras to monitor every IO adjudicating the case.
..... I do not support the notion of ending retrogression. Given that there are only a finite number of visa quotas, ending retrogression will make the GC a game of Inky-Pinky-Ponky.....
GC was, is and will be a game of Inky-Pinky-Ponky with or without retrogression. There's no way it can be made 100% FIFO without installing cameras to monitor every IO adjudicating the case.
..... I do not support the notion of ending retrogression. Given that there are only a finite number of visa quotas, ending retrogression will make the GC a game of Inky-Pinky-Ponky.....
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amitjoey
05-23 11:37 AM
I sent the email to senators but was disappointed not to see any SKIL provisions like MS, PHD exemptions.
Pitha, we do not need SKIL, if we get greencard quickly. See item 3 on the list.
Pitha, we do not need SKIL, if we get greencard quickly. See item 3 on the list.
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03-06 06:22 PM
I find the second proposal very reasonable. If anyone is waiting for more than 5 years, then make that person exempt from country quota.
I'm not saying this because I've already waited five years. It makes sense to flush out oldest PD in the system. This would give people an idea about the wait time.
I'm fine even it is made to say, 6 or 7 years......We just need to know what to expect and how long to wait rather than being subjected to the whims and fancies of politicians and vagaries of the economic boom and bust!
Whether, it is 5,6 or 7 years can be debated but a reasonable time frame would really help.
When the spill over happened based on PD, it was doing exactly that; the oldest applicants ( who were typically EB3 I/C) were flushed out of the system.
When the criteria got changed (fEB category first and then PD), the applicants with oldest PDs were made to wait even longer.
I dont expect a GC before 2010. That would make about 8 years with multiple boom and bust. When the economy is bad, we need to be free to look for other jobs. With the shackle of visa sponsorship, one would easily become a viction of a recession.
I know few of my friend who went back in 2001 - 2002. I was fortunate to survive then....Not sure what is in store now......
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I'm not saying this because I've already waited five years. It makes sense to flush out oldest PD in the system. This would give people an idea about the wait time.
I'm fine even it is made to say, 6 or 7 years......We just need to know what to expect and how long to wait rather than being subjected to the whims and fancies of politicians and vagaries of the economic boom and bust!
Whether, it is 5,6 or 7 years can be debated but a reasonable time frame would really help.
When the spill over happened based on PD, it was doing exactly that; the oldest applicants ( who were typically EB3 I/C) were flushed out of the system.
When the criteria got changed (fEB category first and then PD), the applicants with oldest PDs were made to wait even longer.
I dont expect a GC before 2010. That would make about 8 years with multiple boom and bust. When the economy is bad, we need to be free to look for other jobs. With the shackle of visa sponsorship, one would easily become a viction of a recession.
I know few of my friend who went back in 2001 - 2002. I was fortunate to survive then....Not sure what is in store now......
-G
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Lasantha
02-05 10:20 AM
Hi Gene,
The main two applications you need to file is 1) PR card 2) SIN card.
No, you cannot file for the PR card online and as far as I know same goes for the SIN card.
1) The officer will take down your information for the PR card during the landing process. The picture you sent them will be used for this and no need to take new pictures. However you need to give them a Canadian address for them to send you the PR card. They will not accept a US address and no PO boxes. So I suggest that you give a friend's or relatives's address if you plan to return to the US after landing. After your friend receives the PR card he can mail it to you in the US.
2) During the landing procedure you will receive a packet of documents and it will have information on how to apply for your SIN card. All you need to do is go to one of their offices on a weekday during working hours with your landing papers and fill a form. There too you need to provide a Canadian address.
In addition to these you must bring with you a list of goods you are bringing with you and a list of goods that will arrive later. This is to be submitted to Canadian customs. Then you must bring bankstatements etc proving that you have the required amount of funds.
When I landed I had not applied for AOS. So I am not sure what kind of effect the Canadian PR will have when you return to the US. Hope someone who landed after filing 485 would throw some light on that.
You can return whenver you wish after landing. But you will need some time to file for your SIN card. I landed on a Friday afternoon and came back the following Monday. Why not make a mini vacation of it? I landed in Toronto and it's a great city.
Hope this helps.
What documents, applications need to be filled out after we land in Canada; in-terms of applying for the Resident Card, Social Insurance Number etc. I don't even know what else needs to be filled out.
Can we fill these applications on-line or must be fill them out only after we have landed physically in Canada?
After landing, how long before we can come back to the USA for resuming our job?
Thanks Lasantha.
The main two applications you need to file is 1) PR card 2) SIN card.
No, you cannot file for the PR card online and as far as I know same goes for the SIN card.
1) The officer will take down your information for the PR card during the landing process. The picture you sent them will be used for this and no need to take new pictures. However you need to give them a Canadian address for them to send you the PR card. They will not accept a US address and no PO boxes. So I suggest that you give a friend's or relatives's address if you plan to return to the US after landing. After your friend receives the PR card he can mail it to you in the US.
2) During the landing procedure you will receive a packet of documents and it will have information on how to apply for your SIN card. All you need to do is go to one of their offices on a weekday during working hours with your landing papers and fill a form. There too you need to provide a Canadian address.
In addition to these you must bring with you a list of goods you are bringing with you and a list of goods that will arrive later. This is to be submitted to Canadian customs. Then you must bring bankstatements etc proving that you have the required amount of funds.
When I landed I had not applied for AOS. So I am not sure what kind of effect the Canadian PR will have when you return to the US. Hope someone who landed after filing 485 would throw some light on that.
You can return whenver you wish after landing. But you will need some time to file for your SIN card. I landed on a Friday afternoon and came back the following Monday. Why not make a mini vacation of it? I landed in Toronto and it's a great city.
Hope this helps.
What documents, applications need to be filled out after we land in Canada; in-terms of applying for the Resident Card, Social Insurance Number etc. I don't even know what else needs to be filled out.
Can we fill these applications on-line or must be fill them out only after we have landed physically in Canada?
After landing, how long before we can come back to the USA for resuming our job?
Thanks Lasantha.
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sayonara
08-30 04:38 PM
Got the receipts for 485 applied on July 2nd to NSC. NSC--> TSC transfer. Notice date of 8/23.
Congrats - Did u file on July 2nd?
Congrats - Did u file on July 2nd?
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man-woman-and-gc
09-15 02:46 PM
It's just hidden but when you do export to csv it shows everything. This is not secure. Please be careful with sharing your phone # on public domains.
Folks...I was told once by an IV core member ' This is the land of the fearless' and therefore we should not fear abut simple things like like sharing our email ID or ph#.
However, keeping this concern in mind that may prevent some members from supporting, i have removed the email ID and ph# column from the public spreadsheet. I will maintain a separate spreadsheet with list of email ID's and ph# so that we can get in touch as soon as it is time for some real action.
Thanks.
Folks...I was told once by an IV core member ' This is the land of the fearless' and therefore we should not fear abut simple things like like sharing our email ID or ph#.
However, keeping this concern in mind that may prevent some members from supporting, i have removed the email ID and ph# column from the public spreadsheet. I will maintain a separate spreadsheet with list of email ID's and ph# so that we can get in touch as soon as it is time for some real action.
Thanks.
drirshad
08-19 03:23 AM
Indeed we are IT professionals, the billing stops our brain stops ......
How about giving a proposal to the USCIS to revamp their entire system free of cost so we save future immigrants. Most of us are so called IT professionals arent we.
How about giving a proposal to the USCIS to revamp their entire system free of cost so we save future immigrants. Most of us are so called IT professionals arent we.
gcspace
10-08 10:38 AM
I am still waiting?
Did you contact USCIS regarding your case ? Any response or the regular
'wait for 30/45 more days' answer ?
Did you contact USCIS regarding your case ? Any response or the regular
'wait for 30/45 more days' answer ?
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